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A Hole-In-One with Hypnosis with Professional Hypnotist Sheila Wenger on Living Hypnotically

by Erika Flint, BCH, OB on


This episode of Living Hypnotically has the wonderful guest and professional hypnotist Sheila Wenger. She shares stories of helping a client improve their golf game and even get a hole-in-one, helping a married couple rediscover how to honor themselves to improve their relationship, and how fast and effective hypnosis truly is.

How did you get started in hypnosis?

Sheila was studying to become a marriage and family therapist when she first read about hypnosis and ended up doing a research paper on the topic. She was amazed by what she learned and wanted to try it herself. She found a hypnotherapist and had amazing results!

Her hypnotherapist was very supportive of her desire to help people, and since he was nearing retirement, he offered to sell his practice to Sheila. This encouraged her to get more training. She found Cascade Hypnosis Center where she learned 5-PATH hypnosis and felt 100% prepared to start seeing clients and changing their lives. She completed training with full confidence that hypnosis was even more effective and much faster than traditional therapy, and immediately opened her practice. She was seeing clients just a month after finishing her hypnosis training at Cascade Hypnosis!

What was it like helping your first clients?

"It was like magic in front of my eyes," Sheila says. Being able to watch the process of transformation unfold before her was deeply inspiring. She didn't feel lost or unsure of what she was doing, and truly helped people overcome big issues.

The best result was how happy her clients were.

Tell us about one of your favorite client success stories.

Sheila shares a story about a gentleman that came to see her to get help with his golf game. He felt that he wasn't able to be fully present while he was playing, and it was affecting his success with the game.

After the first session she got a text from him about four hours later that he had just golfed one of the best games of his life! He got par on 8 holes in a row.

The next week they do their second session, and again shortly afterwards she gets a text from him that he just got a hole-in-one! Incredible! His success was something Sheila can never forget.

Is there a specific group or type of person you like helping the most?

Sheila loves working with women in their 40's or 50's. They're often successful moms, wives, or business women, but they've given too much of themselves away in the process which has led them to feeling tired and like something is missing. These women often get stuck in the idea that they are only worthy or successful when they fully give themselves away.

But "we have got to live our best lives, and when we're deeply fulfilled, it spills over into everything." Once Sheila is able to help them realize this, there's a chain reaction of realizations that happens where they start to feel hope, excitement, and alive again. These positive feelings then radiate to their loved ones, co-workers, and even strangers in the grocery store.

"When we shift our whole world shifts, but it has to start with us." - Sheila Wenger

A success story of heart-shaped pizza.

Another client that came to Sheila was a woman who was frustrated that she seemed to be the only one to notice what needed to be done in her relationship. She wasn't a mom, but she often felt like she had to take care of her husband too often. She was an "over-functioner" in that she was constantly doing more than the fair share of work.

Through hypnosis they learned that she had learned through childhood that things wouldn't get done unless she took initiative and did them. Sheila explained that although she wants to work on her relationship with her husband, she would get results from just focusing on herself during their time together. Sheila explained to her client the importance of feeling her feelings and don't betray those feelings.

So the next day she's at home, her husband is busy playing video games,  and it's time to make dinner. But she doesn't feel like making dinner. So she doesn't. Instead she does something she enjoys and takes the dog for a walk.

Immediately her partner senses that something is off, and ends up meeting her outside before she got back home. They had a good conversation and ended up making dinner together when they got back.

The next night they decided to have pizza for dinner. The woman loves canadian bacon and pineapple pizza, but her husband doesn't and usually they compromise by getting pepperoni instead. But this time he ordered her a canadian bacon and pineapple pizza, and also a heart-shaped pepperoni pizza.

They really learned how to be attentive with one another and create harmony just because the woman started honoring her feelings.

What would you say to someone that was thinking about trying hypnosis?

Because of first-hand experience with how quickly and well hypnosis works, Sheila recommends not hesitating to try. The truth is many people have something inside of them that they're running from. The issue isn't their fault, but it is completely possible to transform that fear into strength and inspiration.

I would just say it's worth an hour and a half of your time to find out what this can do for you, and you'll find out after one session... that you’ll love this.

-Sheila Wenger


Do you have a favorite tool or technique that your clients love?

It is important to Sheila that she has a very thorough pre-talk with clients before starting hypnosis, where she can get a deep sense of how her client is feeling and experiencing. By being able to make that empathetic connection, she is able to do deep work in hypnosis with the client by understanding how they're feeling, or what their goals are. She wants to feel as though she's living her client's life while working together.

This helps her creating effective visualizations that truly inspire hope and transformation in the client. It also amplifies the feelings which really anchors in the amazing work that they do together. Most importantly she can help her clients start to notice all the possibilities available to them now that they're working through this issue that's troubled them so deeply.

How do you live hypnotically and incorporate hypnosis into your daily life?

Every morning Sheila starts her day with self-hypnosis. This helps her start every day in the right state so that she can feel in flow. She also checks in with herself before every client to make sure her best self is there to give the best hypnotic support to each and every client.

Sheila describes that importance of understanding that feelings are always important and are valid. Emotions are always trying to tell us something, so by slowing down for a moment she can understand what her feelings are trying to tell her, and adjust accordingly.

What did you think about hypnosis before and after becoming a hypnotherapist?

Before experiencing hypnosis, Sheila wasn't even aware people still practiced hypnosis and that it was an old-timey thing.

And now she sees it as one of the most powerful forms of therapy that works quickly and effectively.

I really believe that it unlocks our potential forever. That sounds like such a big statement. But I am living it every day.

It makes anything that you really want possible and then that possibility moves to another possibility.

-Sheila Wenger

How did you get your first clients?

By simply sharing her personal story and success with hypnosis, researching, and training through a Facebook post, she found that people from all different connections were reaching out to her. People she was in school with, old volleyball teammates, etc., until her schedule was pretty full. Then those clients were amazed by their success that they told their friends and family members, and the word of mouth has kept her schedule full since.

What would you tell someone who was thinking about becoming a hypnotist?

If you genuinely care about helping people and are a really good listener, then Sheila recommends running, not walking, towards becoming a hypnotist. There is high demand for therapists and support right now, and a lot of people who will really appreciate what you have to offer. People are also becoming more open to the idea of hypnosis as it becomes more apparent how quick and successful it is for really tough issues.

What in particular about hypnosis do you think makes it faster than regular therapy? 

Since Sheila originally was studying to become a traditional therapist, she has a good understanding of why hypnosis works so quickly. She explains how much the prefrontal cortex takes over, which creates the loops of ideas and feelings that we get stuck in. Some people have been in these loops for so long that they're not even aware of the feelings that are initiating the loops. Hypnosis is able to quiet the prefrontal cortex so that the subconscious mind can bring forth the important thoughts and feelings. The subconscious is incredibly important to who we are, and hypnosis works directly with the subconscious mind. By making changes directly with the subconscious, there's almost a domino effect of transformation as your brain accepts a new way of thinking and feeling that's full of positivity, confidence, and ease. 

What else would you like to tell to potential clients out there?

I would just tell you, if you have been thinking about doing it, try a session. I'll give you a little discount if you want to try it out and you're on the fence.

I'll give you $25 off a session if you cite this interview and you have nothing to lose. You just have nothing to lose. It's A) it's interesting. It's kinda fascinating. You could find out if it works and I'm so confident that it will, that you'll leave my office better than you felt when you walked in. 

-Sheila Wenger

How can people contact you?

Anyone can email Sheila at, not .com.

Closing comments from Erika Flint.

If you haven't gotten my book, Can You Be a Hypnotist? Go grab a copy of it. Now. and I look forward to seeing you in the hypnosis classroom.





Erika: Hi, I'm Erika Flint and this is Living Hypnotically Welcome, where we explore the benefits and application of hypnosis with professional hypnotists. And today I have Sheila Wenger with me.

And Sheila, you are in Vancouver, Washington, just like killing it with helping so many people these days. Can you tell us a little about like, how did you get started in hypnosis? Tell us a little of your origin story. 

Sheila: Okay it's quite a fascinating story. I am in school to become a marriage and family therapist after 16 years of being a high school French and English teacher, and I've been wanting to be a therapist pretty much my whole life.

I loved teaching, but I was ready to make that change. And so I was studying that and along my path I had to learn about hypnosis and I had to do a big paper and all this research. It blew my mind. I thought this might be the most underrated form of therapy out there. So I tried it on myself, and I had a moment with my hypnotherapist, who's now a very good friend where there was just an energy in the room I, that was palpable. It felt like something profound is happening. I don't know what it is. We finished the hypnosis and then he said to me, so maybe you wanna buy my practice. And I, I don't know, but I think what I do know is that I wanna complete my certification and add that to my marriage and family therapy practice.

That grew into several conversations that he and I had. He was eager and willing to share his knowledge with me. He was he's 76 years old I think he felt a little fatherly connection with me and, and. he's gonna retire soon. So he was excited to share what he knows.

That led me to Cascade Hypnosis Center, where I learned the five path technique and I went there with all the questions in mind. I want to be a really good therapist. I wanna help people with the, the things that drive them crazy, their mental blocks, their emotional hangups, all of that.

I wanted to know is it gonna go deep enough and really do that work? And I, long story short, I left there completely, 100% convinced that not only is it just as effective as therapy, it's way more, it's way more efficient, way faster. Then I did something I would never have done. I opened a practice immediately.

I, was thinking I would start in a couple more years unless hypnosis really convinced me and I became so convinced I found my office and let's see, about one month later I was practicing in my office after I left. 

Erika: Wow. That's exciting. That's what we want, right? We talk about going from classroom to client because you're fully trained in class and what we want you to do is just go start helping people. And so you did exactly that. Good job. What was that like helping your first people? 

Sheila: It was amazing because I, before I had my office, I started working at home. And And it was amazing because I had practiced the techniques and I had seen you do them and other people do them, but when I'm re… was really for the first time there with the client to watch this process unfold as it was told, I was told that it would have them get to unlocking deep pain thatt's been there and release it. And it, was like magic in front of my eyes and it was, it's such an honor to be able to facilitate that. I, it's just magical. And it, showed me immediately that it worked. It didn't take, I didn't have, I wasn't bumbling through it. I wasn't making mistakes. I was just doing what I was taught very dedicatedly, and I was then getting the results that I was convinced would happen. 

Erika: Wow. Wow. And your clients are getting the results, so they're happy. 

Sheila: The clients are unbelievably happy and they're telling everyone I have lot. When we get into some of the results, It blows my mind every day, so that'll be really fun to talk about.

My clients are very happy and they're so happy that they can't help but tell other people about it. 

Erika: Why don't you tell us now? Let's get into one of these results now I wanna 

hear it. 

Sheila: Okay. Okay. One of them I will, that's like an iconic one I'll never forget, is a man who came to me for being more present and improving his golf game. He thinks being more present has a correlation to his golf. So we did all of the above and we did two sessions on that. And the first session, he immediately went to play golf after our session. Okay. So four, four hours later I get a text. I, if that one ball hadn't popped out of that hole, I would've had par for nine holes in a row and that's the best golf I've played in years after one, one session with you. One session. Wow. 

That would've been enough, Erika. But a week later we do our second session. Okay. Next day, he goes and plays golf, sends me a video on my phone, he says, I'm not sure yet. I'm gonna walk up to the hole. But if that ball is in the hole, it's a hole in one.

He got a hole in one. 

Erika: He got a hole in one. So he shoots his best, golf one week, and then the next weekend he gets a hole in one. 

Sheila: You can't make that up. You can't make it. Oh, no. And he knew it. Oh no, he knew. He, I said, I can't take all the credit for that. He's I'm giving you all the credit for that. Okay. Then. 

Erika: Awesome. And that just shows the power, not only of hypnosis, but really the power of the mind. That's really what we're highlighting with hypnosis. We're cutting through the Bs, right? The limiting beliefs, all of that stuff, so we get to the actual truth, so we get to help our clients shine in a natural way, right?

Sheila: Yes. Absolutely. And that's a such a fun example because it's so statistically hard to do. But even more touching are the ones where I have been in this dynamic relationship loop with my partner for years. Yeah. And suddenly it's unlocked and we're those are the really heart-wrenching… there's wonderful ones that you know, that life has changed and it, they'll never go back.

Those mean the most, but that hole in one is just, I'll never forget it. . 

Erika: Yeah. Good good Maybe we can get another story in a little bit. Okay. I do want to ask you about you've been doing this for a while now, and who do you like to help? Do you have a group of people that you really love serving and, supporting?

Sheila: I really do. I get a lot of, I get a lot of moms in their forties and fifties. And also not just moms, but wives and women and they, they've just done such good work, but they're giving so much away and they are tired that life feels a little gray because they have bought the story that they are worthy when they give everything away and it's not true. You and I both know that we have got to live our best lives, and when we're deeply fulfilled, it spills over into everything and I love working with those women because when they start to realize that it fills them with so much aliveness, so much joy, and it's true. Then it spills out to their family, to their work, everything. And that's one of my favorite transformations to do because tt's just so prevalent. 

Erika: Yeah. Yeah. I see that a lot because I help a lot of people lose weight. And so the there's a kind of a common theme that goes with certain issues and certainly with weight loss for women it's the moms who the people pleasers, which is what I think you're talking about.

I can't be happy unless everyone else in the room is happy and I need to make sure my kids and my husband and like everybody around me is happy. And they, yeah, absolutely. . Yeah. And that feels good to see that our loved ones happy, right? But then it becomes a problem. I noticed it. Many clients were just regretful of not following through on some of their own dreams. And now they find themselves 55 years old, 50, 55 years old. All their kids are grown and having lives of their own, and they don't have a hobby, profession, friends, like they don't have their thing because they had dedicated their whole life to their family, pretty much. And there's some resentment about that.

And then guess what? They feel guilty for being resentful for it. And so they're stuck in the situation where they feel bad for even thinking along those lines. 

Sheila: Exactly. Yes. And then you've got a secondary problem. Instead of having compassion for, wow what's, really there for me that I need to give my attention? Heal that. Yeah. And then things can really blossom. 

Erika: Yeah, Good. So we often get to see our clients come alive right in front of us. Me too. And that's where like in my, third book, Can You Be a Hypnotist? At the very end I talk about find the light in your client and associate the light and treat them only if you can notice that light, right? It's a takeoff of a Wayne Dyer quote. But it reminds me of what you're saying where your client comes in and you can see. This change in her. And the name of your business is Shift Hypnosis, right? 

Sheila: Yes, Yeah. Love that term, because when we shift our whole world shifts, but it has to start with us. I have another thing about those clients, the mom clients, is they also feel a little resentful the fact for the fact that they're the one who has to notice also that there's a problem in the relationship. Why can't someone else bring it up? Why why can't my partner notice and bring it? But it's, we are the keeper of everybody's wellbeing. So they come in with that too.

Erika: Did you have a client who was coming in with that? You mentioned these couples coming back together, so was, do you have an experience you can share where, 

Sheila: Yeah, this is a couple, she doesn't have children, but she was what I would call an over-functioner. And that 

Erika: Over Functioner. Okay. This is a new word for me. Thank you. Over Functioner? Yes. 

Sheila: Doing more than her share for sure. Oh. And because of a childhood pattern that got laid down that convinced her that other people just don't do it. I have to do it. So she was doing more and feeling he was spiraling and not, living his best life, not being his best. and, but she was the keeper of the wellbeing. So I said it even though it seems like we might need both of you, we don't need both of you, when you change the relationship with yourself every other relationship in your life will change. Yeah. What I guided her to do is feel your feelings and don't betray your feelings. So if you walk in and he's playing video games and it's dinnertime and no one's thought about dinner and you don't wanna make dinner, You don't betray that feeling. That's a real vital, valid feeling. I don't wanna make dinner cuz this feels not fair. Yeah. So I suggested what would feel like more fair to you? How about going to your favorite cafe and taking a book and just enjoying your dinner, or tune in and just whatever you don't betray your feeling that I don't wanna make dinner.

She, this is the thing. So then we talked about that, and then we put it in, this vision and hypnosis when she's all relaxed and then she sees the potential of what's on the other side if she can make this change. And anyway, so she goes home and the next time this happens, might have been even that night, she tuned in with herself. I don't wanna make dinner. She took the dogs for a walk. A walk. Sounds nice. She takes this loop, she rounds the corner and who's there? But her partner, he immediately senses something's off with her. I need to go help. He went the other way. Met her. Are you okay? Is everything fine, attentive. They made dinner together.

The next night he ordered pizza. They normally, she loves Canadian bacon and pineapple pizza, but he doesn't. So they always make a compromise. They always get the compromise Pizza. Okay? He came home with Canadian bacon and pineapple pizza and a heart-shaped pepperoni pizza as well. Aww for her . 

Erika: So awesome. So you empowered her to not betray herself. And that is the truth. Always sets us free. So when she didn't do that, her loving partner, right? We don't always have loving partners, but a lot of times we do notice it. Noticed it, and went to reconcile some. 

Sheila: Yes. And that continued where he just began to meet her more over halfway after that.

Erika: Beautiful. Beautiful. Oh, wonderful. Beautiful. Love it. Love it. So what would you wanna say to one of your clients or somebody out there thinking, man, maybe I should try hypnosis. Yeah. What would you, wanna say to him? 

Sheila: I would say don't hesitate , because what I have seen is that this works for anything that you want in your life. If you really want something in your life this is what unlocks what's in your way so that you can actually have it. And if there's something, usually for a lot of people, there's some pattern like, oh, why does this keep happening to me? I don't feel like I'm contributing to this, but it just the same thing over and over.

The truth is that there is something inside that unconsciously is contributing and it's not your fault. But it is running. And this process unlocks that gets it out of your way and something new and wonderful arrives and it's a new way of living and a new way of being. And then that's not even all because then once you know that's possible. What happens next is what else is possible, right? Yeah. If that's possible. And I've been doing that for so long… now new ideas, new creativity, new dreams. This is never gonna stop, right? So, it's I would just say it's worth an hour and a half of your time to find out what this can do for you, and you'll find out after one session that you'll, that you’ll love this.

Erika: Awesome, awesome. How about a tool or technique, something that you've been doing hypnosis for a little while now. Do you have something that you tend to find a lot of your clients get relief from or something that you regularly do in your practice? 

Sheila: Yes, I do. And it comes up a lot when I, spend a good amount of time in the pre-talk and so I really make sure that I get to the exact way that this client is experiencing what they're experiencing and exactly what they want out of their life. That's once they get past this thing, what they really, want. And I have to get to the point where I feel it as if I'm living their life right?

And that is my favorite technique. Cuz if I do that, then what I can do in hypnosis is I can paint pictures for them, which amplifies what kind of life, what life will feel like and look like, and I will take ex specific examples for things they deeply want, maybe the way that their children are looking at them. There's a new look in their eye. Now they're not resisting. They're noticing and listening and appreciating. There's even a little bit of admiration going on. Whatever is really important to them. They see that this is all possible and when they visualize it without the prefrontal cortex getting in the way and interrupting and saying it didn't happen last week. It's just, it's not there. So they can just enjoy the, the vision of it, the feeling of it, and then amplify how that feels in their body and they want it so much the then that whatever little obstacle was in their way, the little thing we're asking them to do that's a little bit new is just oh, I'm just leaping right over that because I want this. Really badly, and that's not that big of a deal anymore. 

In fact, right before our interview, I just got a text from a gal I saw four days last week and she said, oh, just by the way, I wanted to let you know I worked out five of the seven days this week because I wanted to, because I jumped out of bed, not because I coerced myself. That's what I'm talking about. 

Erika: Yeah, beautiful. That's just amazing. When we can give our clients the expectation of success, right? You've basically given the brain a more powerful story to live into than the worst case scenario or the destruction of whatever it is that they had been experiencing, right?

So now when you go through this in hypnosis and they really get all of those feelings, the brain really gets on board like, yes, I do want that. And that's what allows us to skip over those, problems. Because those problems aren't they, seem like, little pebbles on the road with hypnosis rather than giant boulders or, 

Sheila: Exactly. Exactly that. 

And it's amazing. I've even found that now that I see this every day I'm, my, my own new possibilities are coming in all the time. Oh, I just thought of that. That's probably possible.

Erika: Nice That, that brings me to my next question for you. How do you live hypnotically? How do you incorporate hypnosis into your every day? 

Sheila: I would say that it is with me every single day. I have learned, because we're our, we're so trained to rely on our prefrontal cortex for everything, but that is not our entire self. It's, not, and there's a great deal of power in using the other parts of our mind.

And for me that's, intuition. That is the state of dreaming is different than just planning. And so I wake up in the morning and I start my self- hypnosis immediately. And then I check in with my state and I don't begin my day until I'm in the right state. And that feels like people could call it aligned, in the flow.

Yeah. Or whatever. But I know the difference very well now because I tune in with it every single day. And even then before a client, I always make sure that I'm there too. So that's with me all the time. And another way is that I'm a, I'm deeply aware now having practiced this, that my own feelings, whatever they are, are valid. They are perfect. They're telling me something, so I tune in. So if I'm feel, yesterday I was a little bit low energy and I haven't been like that. I'm like what's, this? Huh? Okay. I'm gonna just take it a little slower. I guess I need to maybe slow down and I honor my own feelings, whatever they are because I know that there's power and magic in that, and that's what I have all my clients do because that's my relationship with myself and my life springs from.

Erika: Yeah. Wow, beautiful. It sounds like you're modeling living hypnotically for your clients. You're doing it yourself. It's easier to teach when we're doing it ourself and having our own experiences in hypnosis, right? Yeah, absolutely. As a hypnotist, what changed for you? You, didn't know hypnosis at some point. You learned a little hypnosis, got really inspired, had a session with somebody really inspired, and now you've been a professional for a certain period of time. What did a lot of our clients have misperceptions about hypnosis. So what did you think about hypnosis before versus what you know now as a Professional hypnotist?

Sheila: Yeah. Okay. 

I just didn't know much about it. I didn't even. Still existed do people even still do that? And a little bit like, it's weird and what, is that still a thing? And now, oh gosh, it's the best way for me to describe it is, it's… It’s therapy on steroids, it's, it's just so much faster. It's a change process. It's so much faster, and I really believe that it unlocks our potential forever. That sounds like such a big statement. But I am living it every day and I know how, for example I've had a sugar thing in my life. And I've never really entertained completely eliminating processed sugar in my life. I'm like, oh it's a fine to have a little no. Recently that became an idea of possibility to just not have it anymore. I don't, I think it's not helping me. I think I'm a little addicted in a way, and I don't wanna be any way, and I just stopped and it's been easy.

So it makes anything that you really want possible and then that possibility moves to another possibility. So it just keeps..

Erika: We get the upward spiral. That's what we want. The upward spiral of hypnosis. 

Sheila: Yes. Yeah. That's what I believe it is now compared to what I used. 

Erika: That's just amazing. I'm just so proud of so many people that you've helped and, you had mentioned earlier and I like to ask how you got your first clients. And I think your story is just so fantastic because a lot of people coming into this business and a lot of entrepreneurs, a lot of coaches, hypnotherapist, really get nervous or worried about growing their practice and getting their first clients. I just like to tell everybody to live hypnotically and talk about what you do and your clients don't come in.

Now we use Google quite a bit and YouTube now too, but at the beginning, yeah. It was mostly talking about what I do. So why don't you share with how that went for you? How did you get your first clients? 

Sheila: It blew my mind. I'll, be, I'll tell you I knew when I was ready that I was going to tell all my close people that were gonna do this, but. I, all I did was I shared my story one day I woke up, I wake up pretty early and I woke up at 5:00 AM and I thought, I just have to tell this story. It's really something. And I just summarized how I had found hypnotherapy in my marriage and family therapy program and what I had told you earlier, I went through process and I put it on Facebook. And that's honestly the only thing I've done. And I had people reach out to me immediately from my teaching years, from my parent coaching years, from all the different parts of my volleyball players I played with in college, in high school, and people reached out and It just did not take long at all before my schedule was pretty full.

And then now I'm not really posting on Facebook very much every once in a while, but those people are telling their people and so yeah. 

Erika: Referral referrals happening. Good job. Bravo. Bravo. And referrals happen when our clients get results, and so it is amazing to be doing something where your clients are getting a better life.

Sheila: It is amazing. I, walk in my office so happy to be here every day, . It's just a, it is a dream come true for me. 

Erika: Yeah. You're an amazing hypnotist. I love, your energy and philosophy on things. And what would you say to somebody, Sheila, that might be thinking about becoming a hypnotist? 

Sheila: Oh, I would say that if you are a person who genuinely cares about helping people and that's what you're here to do. You wanna serve people on their path to, for their best life. And if you have that intention inside of you, and I'll add a couple things. If you're a really good listener, it is really important. It's gotta be a really good listener. True Uh, And if you have those two things, then you should run, not walk To go.

Yeah. To go become, because not only for you, but because we are in a time and place where people are hungry and open for help and then not being able to find it. Therapists are booked and people are on waiting lists and they're on waiting lists for things you shouldn't be on a waiting list for.

They need support and help and guidance, and people tend to think automatically more about therapy. This does therapy. It does, it j just a little faster , in my opinion. And so if I, think we're going to, I think what's going to happen is this is gonna grow, it's gonna get the attention, it's deserved. It's always deserved. And people are more open-minded now to trying new things. And so I, I think it's a really good time to become a hypnotherapist. It's incredible. 

Erika: I do too. It's exciting. There's so many opportunities and you're right. It is super effective technique and as hypnotists, we don't. In general, we don't work on diagnosable conditions. We don't have to have certain the D S M memorized. We're not diagnosing people, we're not coming up with treatment plans, any of that. Our clients have the answers inside, so we create the environment where they feel safe and then they share with us.

So I'm just curious what you think having seen most sides, what in particular about hypnosis do you think makes it faster than regular therapy? 

Sheila: Great. Great question. And. Exactly what it is. If I'm working with someone in therapy they are coming to me with their frontal lobe involved, their prefrontal cortex involved. So I have to work really hard to get them, get their defenses down enough for them to even sense a feeling they have, but they might have covered up their feelings for so long that we do session after session on just getting to, you have a feeling. Okay. hypnosis, when the prefrontal cortex relaxes and now we have access to the subconscious, which is so often more powerful than anyone's front thinking brain. They don't have to worry about being vulnerable. The subconscious does the work. It will bring up what it's, what it needs to address and what it's ready for. It knows better than we do. Yeah. So if it's not ready for the biggest thing, it'll bring the medium size thing.

And then we have great results from that and they feel better and then they come back later a little bit maybe, and now they're ready for a little bit more. It's doing the work and so it makes it a lot faster. 

Erika: Yeah, it just reminded me of just getting in flow and we always talk about don't swim against the current kind of getting in flow and hypnosis like you said know, the prefrontal lobe and another way that people talk about it is deep tensioning the left hemisphere or. The critical factor, right? That's what we're talking about here, right? We're kinda getting rid of that part of the mind, and it almost seems like we're allowing, once we get rid of the judge, that critical part, it's almost like the mind can get back into that flow and just allow whatever is, they feel safe. So they just allow what has been needing to come up 

Sheila: That's, it. That is right. Yeah. And it's it's. Easier for them. Frankly, just easier for them. It's not such hard work for them. 

Erika: Okay. Good. Good. That's just fantastic. Thank you so much Sheila, for all that you do. What else would you like to say to your potential clients, your fans, all your folks out there?

Sheila: Oh, I would just tell you, if you have been thinking about doing it, it try a session. I'll, give you a little discount if you want to try it out and you're on the fence, you think I'll do it. I'll give you $25 off a free session if you or a session, if you cite this interview and you have nothing to lose.

You just have nothing to lose. It's A. it's interesting. It's kinda fascinating. You could find out if it works and I'm so confident that it will, that leave my office better than you felt when you walked in. 

Erika: Oh, thank you. Thank you for that discount, Sheila. 25% off if they mention living Hypnotically when they contact you and how do they contact you?

Sheila: Okay. Best way is either is by email, so my email. not .com. 

Erika: Okay, we'll make sure to put that up on screen, so, contact you and get 25% off this session by mentioning this program. Thank you so much for offering that discount to our listeners. 

And anything else, Sheila, before we close here today, you'd like to mention?

Sheila: Yeah. One last, one last thought is that I think the main ingredient that all that we all really need as hypnotists is our client to want something better. And that's really all, they might not believe it's possible. We don't need them to, they might not know how it's going to be possible. We don't need them to, all we need is enough clarity about I really want this and I haven't been able to get it. That's all we need. And hypnosis will help with the rest. 

Erika: Beautiful. Beautiful. Thank you so much for joining us here today, Sheila. Hello, Erika. Yeah, I'm Erika Flint. Thanks for joining us at Living Hypnotically where we love to live better lives with the power of hypnosis, and we love to talk about the application of hypnosis with professional hypnotists.

If you haven't gotten my book, Can You Be a Hypnotist? Go grab a copy of it. Now. and I look forward to seeing you in the hypnosis classroom. Bye for now.